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1. Posted by: Andrew J. Lazarus on October 01, 2008, 1:19 pm

   They are just protecting Bristol’s privacy.

2. Posted by: dejaine on October 01, 2008, 5:59 pm

   This is another example of Gov. Palin’s non-answers.  This woman may very well take over from John McCain in his first term, and from what we have seen and heard will finish the job of wrecking the country begun by George Bush and continued by John McCain.

3. Posted by: klaatu on October 01, 2008, 6:14 pm

   Perhaps the reason there have been no overnight guests is that the Palins don’t actually LIVE in Juneau (where the mansion is located). She’s only there sporadically during the legislative session (Jan-Mar), and is in Wasilla (collecting per diem from the state for sleeping in her own bed!) the rest of the time.

4. Posted by: mmmbuzz on October 02, 2008, 5:58 pm

   Frankly the answer seems a little ambiguous but probably very accurate.  Mrs. Palin is not known for “sucking up” to anyone.  Quite the opposite, she has practically alientated anyone who is “staus quo”, i.e. anyone who is for “the same goverment routine”.  Don’t hate.  Appreciate the fact that she actually has the nerve to stand up for what’s true and good and right. Maybe she will take the points made at the website: www.faircreditforamerica.com and act upon them.

5. Posted by: oshaunasy on October 02, 2008, 6:54 pm

   Palin is sucking up big time to the neocon right and she’s been sucking up to big oil for a long time now in spite of the rhetoric. Like McCain she is no renegade. As for her not presenting a list of stay overs in the governor’s mansion, the Alaskan taxpayers have a right to know since they are footing the bill.

6. Posted by: mmmbuzz on October 02, 2008, 7:56 pm

   Just because you don’t respect Mrs. Palin’s conservative views doesn’t mean that Alaskan’s are paying extra to keep the lights on in the Governor’s residence when she or anyone else is staying there, that’s absurd.  Further, maybe Tony Rezko didn’t stay at Obama’s house (he lives next door) but I’ll be that Obama has broken bread with Mr. Rezko and Bill Ayers on several occasions.  Now, please tell me who you’d rather be associated with:  Mrs. Palin’s “casual overnight guests” or a couple of convicted criminals like Rezko and Ayers?  (not to mention that Ayers is a self confessed terrorist bomber) Please, drop the “neocon” hating bit, what has Mrs. Palin ever done to you?  Personally I hope Obama wins, ‘cause the next 4 years are gonna be very bad and he’ll get to take the blame for not being able to fix anything!  I might vote for him on that principal alone… just to watch him and his true “friends” go down in flames.

7. Posted by: oshaunasy on October 02, 2008, 8:35 pm

   mmmbuzz if Palin had any actual conservative views perhaps she would gain my respect. The sad part is she doesn’t unless you consider asking God to bless a pipeline as a conservative view. Or how about calling offshore drilling the will of God? Since when has Exxon Mobile become God? This zealot who cannot even use the articulate words spoon fed to her in a proper sentence is what the republicans offer us at such a crucial period in US history? Why sir this is laughable. And being glad about the bad times for Obama doesn’t begin to reflect the bad times brought upon us for the last 7 years and beyond with Reaganomics or what this current crisis will do to the poor and working classes in this country. It is easy to see where your priorities lie.

8. Posted by: mmmbuzz on October 02, 2008, 8:52 pm

   oshaunasy, you’re suggesting that Mrs. Palin is not a conservative?  Clearly you don’t respect anyone including Reagan who has conservative views… and your solution would be what?  Total socialism?.  You, like most liberals, seem to want ignore the economic boom in both real estate and the stock market from 2000-2007, but you sure enjoyed it while you could cash the check didn’t you?!  Also, who’s been in charge of the Senate and House for the past two years?  Liberal Democrats who could have made the changes to help prevent the disaster that is now at hand.  Please don’t presume that you are smater than Mrs. Palin or any conservative, either that or you better run for office yourself!

9. Posted by: oshaunasy on October 02, 2008, 11:57 pm

   Spoken like a true republican!. First of all by today’s GOP standards, Barry Goldwater would be left of center. Secondly anyone who would make rape victims in their state pay for their own medical exams and treatment is far beyond anything conservative unless of course compassion-less inhumanity is a conservative trait. So I attack Palin. I am not alone. Many from her home state are doing the same and in fact Alaska is becoming another battle ground state. The truth is she is insignificant and many on your side she her as a detriment to McCain’s bid for office. As for Reagan, the guy your bunch calls the great communicator, the guy you wanted to defame a national treasure by putting his face on Mt. Rushmore, the same guy whose funeral Bush used as a political spectacle, the guy who slept through most of his meetings, who gave us supply side economics which was the beginning of the very economic travesty we now face, who gave us the Iran-Contra scandal, who along with Milton Friedman and Henry Kissinger helped the fascist dictator Pinochet to disappear and murder tens of thousands of his own people...no I didn’t like him and I didn’t vote for him either. Nor did I vote for either Bush and no I will not waste my vote on John McCain. I believe the bulk of our population will follow suit because what your side represents is simply indefensible. Preemptive war on a nation that did not attack us, that had no weapons of mass destruction, which was enacted unilaterally, breaking international laws as conceived by the Geneva Conventions, laws we helped write, that in turn ran us into hundreds of billions if not trillions of dollars of debt. The undermining of civil liberties, turning America basically into a corporate fascist state run by a shadow government. .Illegally politicizing the judiciary. Illegally spying on Americans with the help of the telecoms, paying billions of dollars to Sunni’s in Iraq not to kill us. The attempts to undermine and yes eventually destroy Social Security. The redefining and implementation of torture and the removal of habeas corpus. The list goes on and on. As for this economic boom you are raving about check your facts! Really you mean housing bubble, artificially manifested by a market without oversight or regulation and based entirely upon greed, the most in fact this nation has ever witnessed in one sitting or been victimized by. During this economic boom as you call it, while the very richest of Americans enjoyed tax breaks on top of off-shoring, far less jobs were created then in the previous administration and those that were paid less. Median wages that have been stagnated since Reagan actually went down. Good jobs were outsourced. While Wall Street was making record profits, middle class America was being whittled away at a record pace and in this past year, every month tens of thousands of jobs have been lost. To date 5 million more people have moved from the middle class to the ranks of poverty under your reign and many millions more can no longer afford health care and are buried in so much personal debt they are a paycheck away from losing their homes But of course this corporate socialism you embrace, the very thing that has created this travesty does not matter to you as much as Obama and his friends go up in flames

10. Posted by: JedClampet on October 05, 2008, 11:07 pm

    It is evident by the deluge of verbatim pro-Palin screed on so many websites that there are rooms in a motel somewhere filled with hypnotized and regimented ‘commenters’.  Of course, they’re using the ‘free Internet’, and no-doubt cleaning-out the ‘free breakfast’ buffet.

11. Posted by: oshaunasy on October 06, 2008, 12:37 am

    Well whoooo doggies! Uncle Jed! This Jethro is in total agreement. Now comes what the republicans do best. Smear and character assassination surrounded by cliche without substance like “America First,” “real change,” “let’s work together,” and “You Betcha!”

12. Posted by: mmmbuzz on October 06, 2008, 1:18 pm

    Cheer for Socialism all you want… the fact remains that there are 2 individuals who have posted pro-Palin comments on this forum vs the 4 negative comments.  So, it seems that if any groupies are hypnotized it’s the St./Savior Obama followers.  Also, please review the Liberal slogan “change” and your own diatribe of character assinations and use of cliche’s before you point any fingers. It’s so easy for you liberals to forget/ignore the fact that the Democrats control the House and Senate and haven’t done anything regarding any of the weak arguments that oshaunasy dribbles about above.  You libs claim you want change but your leaders do nothing.  In fact it’s the Democrats who voted down every bill to regulate the financial markets and the GSE’s… look at the facts, check the votes.  Pelosi, Reid, Dodd, Boxer, Baucus, Obama, they had nothing to do with the situation the country is in?  Please… keep blaming Bush, and bagging on Palin, it’s so much easier than taking any responsibility or doing anything meaningful.

13. Posted by: JedClampet on October 06, 2008, 10:17 pm

    mmmbuzz, No, it’s the fact that the past eight years have allowed a vermin to become embedded in our government. This vile crew went in with the intent to bend/break our government and to allow corporate cows to make law.

    That first year they were going down for the count, but then they really screwed up by ignoring and/or underestimating threat information.

    They used the terrible results of their derelictions to build on fear, and unashamedly took a path that has allow hundreds of thousands of lives and billions of tax-payer dollars to be squandered in Iraq, and created a middle east primed for destruction on a level not appreciated by most people.

    No mmmbuzz, it’s desperate need to get rid of these scum, and to make an effort at making the U.S. more of what it is supposed to be.

    If your pride or misguided allegiance blinds you to the facts, then I feel sorry for you, because you are part of a ever shrinking minority.

14. Posted by: oshaunasy on October 06, 2008, 11:31 pm

    mbzz if you are so convinced of the said vermin, I take it you mean George W. Bush, what makes you think Palin and McCain are the answer? There isn’t one thing that even remotely suggests they’ll do anything differently. In fact there are several indications what they’ll do will be worse. As for this “if you don’t agree with the neocon right you must be a socialist or a traitor or un-American,” IS THAT THE BEST YOU CAN DO? Apparently so since the main issues of concern in this election are being replaced by childish personal attacks and unwarranted character assassination. If you knew anything even remotely about socialism or Karl Marx you would know that one of his first plans was to nationalize the banking system and that is exactly what Bush and Paulson have done.

15. Posted by: mmmbuzz on October 07, 2008, 12:46 pm

    Dear oshaunasy, clearly you have been overwhelmed by your anger and disdain for anything conservative because you clearly misquoted me, like you have misjudged Palin and McCain.  I NEVER said “f you don’t agree with the neocon right you must be a socialist or
    a traitor or un-American” ... I don’t know where you got that… but then again, who knows where two thirds of leftist dribble comes from besides outright prejudice and misguided hate/anger.  Never a solution, just finger pointing and misquotes, from you.  Enjoy your dilusions and watch… whomever wins, they will pay the price of the economic cycle, for at least the first three years of the term.  Last comment: never in history has a conservative approach to anything, ever done harm, the liberal approach has caused the fall of nations.  Check the record, fact: it is/was the Democrats who killed every attempt to regulate the financial institutions over the past 4 years.  Don’t fool/lie to yourself or others, it was the conservative Republicans, McCain specifically, who saw the impending disaster and proposed multiple bills to regulate this before it happened.  Democrats will go down in history as the ones who killed the American economy by voting the party line instead of using common sense.  How stereotypical.  How tragic that you are so blinded by your hatred for President Bush that you can’t see the truth.  You use words like scum and vermin, again typical Liberatl attack… where did I ever once resort to the use of such slurs?  Your mouth/writing defines your character.  Best wishes, I will respond no further.

16. Posted by: oshaunasy on October 07, 2008, 2:38 pm

    I’ll grant you mbzz that in my hast I combined some of what JedClampett said with your own response. I’d like to take this moment to apologize to Jed and say I am in full agreement with him. and please don’t confuse anger for sentiment. I’m not angry with you and I don’t hate anyone. That is something republicans like to say about people they don’t agree with. Also your party has no viable foundation on the real issues so instead comes the Islamo-fascist-traitor-defeatism crap that you always spew forth when your own dismal track record interferes with your ability to hold power. This comes as no surprise of course and I highly doubt the American people are going to buy into this nonsense this time around.because the issues are what most of the people in this coming election want addressed. It is their biggest concern. So no I’m not angry with you. In fact I find things quite amusing from your side. You can huff and puff all you like, but you won’t blow this house down. The neocon agenda is coming to a well deserved close along with the rest of their vacuous self serving agenda. This is the first step in putting this nation back on it’s tracks.

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